MondelΔz on Trade Show Machine Procurement Strategy
John Walker, senior director, Manufacturing, Supply Chain, and Infrastructure Investment at MondelΔz Europe GmbH, talks with Packaging World about how he approaches big industry trade shows, what new tech is on his radar, and more.
Packaging World: Give us a brief overview of what you do at MondelΔz.
John Walker: The short answer is the machines, the nuts and bolts, and nothing to do with materials, ingredients, flavors, or sugars. Iβm based in Switzerland, and my team is responsible for the acquisition of those equipment assets, working with the engineers and the plants. We work with the suppliers and try to make sure that we have a good relationship, and a good asset acquisition strategy.John Walker, senior director, Manufacturing, Supply Chain, and Infrastructure Investment at MondelΔz Europe GmbH
Why do you come to major events like interpack or PACK EXPO? Outside of these types of events, you can very seldom see multiple suppliers in a such a short period of time. Thereβs a tremendous advantage to getting around these shows. You see equipment, you see assets, you see solutions, and you see things that you wouldnβt necessarily see otherwise, because some of these technologies arenβt currently being used for your products. You see things that others have tried, you can benchmark, you can borrow ideas, and replicate what others have done successfully. You also get to see companies you might not know of. We have a certain set of partners, but here we get to do a bit of exploring to augment our portfolio.
So youβre always keeping an eye out for new suppliers, why is that? Itβs no secret that a big factor is risk mitigation. The past few years have been very tough, particularly in automation, with tremendous shortages of components. Weβre looking to broaden our selection, our portfolio of equipment suppliers. We used to have a much more narrow portfolio of suppliers, but weβve broadened it to limit the risk. We canβt bet on just one horse.
What are you looking for at interpack? Anything in particular? Weβre looking for anything from a mixer all the way to the palletizer, essentially anything that produces food. The emphasis today was primarily on packaging equipment, and weβre getting more and more into the higher speeds And also, packaging solutions have to be much more flexible these days, with so many more pack sizes change. E-commerce is something we deal with more and more.
Sounds like SKU proliferation is on your mind, then? In the old days, companies wanted to reduce the number SKUs because they wanted to reduce the complexity. But now itβs going the other way, and weβre constantly introducing new products, new pack sizes, and new varieties. It makes for an infinite combination of possibilities, so thereβs a near-infinite portfolio of things we have to be prepared to make. You canβt do it all with existing equipment, so you have to you have to look what theyβre showing us. The question becomes, theoretically at least, how can you make an infinitely variable portfolio, where you have an infinite number of options on your equipment? Because consumers are wanting and expecting more new product options all the time.
What specific machine capabilities does that translate to? Rapid or fast changeover is becoming critical. In the old days, even as recently as 10 years ago, you could run longer batches. But now you have to be able to produce a larger variety of batches. And the challenge is you want to use that equipment; you donβt want it to be sitting idle as youβre changing it over. Rapid changeover is quite interesting, I liken it to a Formula One pit crews. If you look at the crew today versus 30 years ago, and then versus 70 years ago, you canβt compare them. Today, we try to literally make changes on the fly without stopping the machine. Weβre not there yet, but it would be nice. Letβs say youβre making a chocolate bar and you go, letβs say, from 25 grams to 20 grams. Itβd be nice to be able to do that without ever stopping the machine, right? Thatβs the vision right there.
What are the consumer drivers that are pushing this equipment trend? Youβre seeing a lot more at the at the further end, the downstream end, when it goes into e-commerce. If someone goes into and buys from a big-box retailer, we know what theyβre buying. But when it becomes an e-commerce order, the customers there want a lot more variety in what theyβre actually ordering. If itβs going through an Amazon or other online product service provider, those online sellers are creating their own portfolios of product offerings. Like in the example of the chocolate bars, instead of having a standard three-and two-product [multipack] format, they will want to make a four-and one-. Theyβre constantly shuffling. It puts the manufacturer a bit on edge, having to be able to provide that variety, that flexibility, because we donβt have it inherently. We never had to worry about it before. If you had a 72-count package, thatβs fine. But somebody says, βHey, can you do that, but in a 58-count?β I donβt know, but I guess we have to now.
These are things that are constantly pushing to the forefront, and I donβt see any evidence theyβre going away. Some people thought it was a fad, but I donβt think itβs a fad. I think itβs here to stay.
Here at the show, Iβm seeing lots of new materials being used, particularly in films, with monomaterials, fiber-based paper films, and compostables becoming increasingly prevalent. How is the advent of new materials affecting asset management? It depends, but thereβs always a solution. You can talk about things like sealing jaws. When you close the package, there are different temperatures, thereβs different physical forces, retention forces, thereβs a variety of different criteria. What us equipment people have to do when weβre dealing with the materials people is to ask, βWhat does my equipment need to do, to close or to seal that package, with your material?β Because the end of the day, weβre neutral on the material. I couldnβt care a millimeter less. But I have to make sure that if they say itβs a different temperature range, or a different speed, or a different who-knows-what, we have to be able to make sure that the equipment can do these things. And thatβs not always the case. Sometimes the I get the impression that the film providers are maybe a step or two ahead of the machines. But then sometimes, I think the machines are a step or two ahead. I think itβs a constant in a leapfrogging in technology.
The analogy is that many years ago, when movie theaters use projectors with bulbs, they used to replace the bulbs every seven or eight weeks, whether they were burned out or not, because they didnβt want to burn out a bulb during a movie. But that was a tremendous waste. And to some degree, we were doing the same when we replace things like bearings that need not be replaced. Autonomous and predictive maintenance, which is driven by the operator, first off makes us more efficient because the operator knows best. And number two, weβre only weβre focusing on the things that are higher priority and the things that are critical. I think thatβs really the future, and when you can do that, it means becoming more efficient at the plant floor.
What kinds of trends are you watching among your equipment suppliers? The industry was going through consolidation some years ago, and it still is to some degree. No matter how many consolidations there are, there are always new players coming on. In fact, Iβm constantly amazed that thereβs always new companies out there. They may not be startups, but thereβs always small and mid-sized companies that show up at these shows with a brand-new idea, a brand-new solution that you would not have expected to see before. Itβs these upstarts, theyβre coming out of left field, but you see what theyβre offering and say to yourself, βWell, thatβs pretty clever.β Theyβre not in every corner of every hall, but if you have your eyes and ears open, you can see them and that makes the trip worthwhile, right there.
Can you share any examples that youβve seen here, without giving away your specific OEM or supplier reconnaissance? The integration of the most modern automation components in primary and secondary packaging is the biggest leap forward Iβve seen. When you get all the way down to a palletizer, letβs say, that has not fundamentally changed. Youβre still wrapping film around a pallet, and that goes into the warehouse. Where you get further upstream to where the product is being handled, and to the primary and secondary packaging, thatβs where these advances are coming, in my view. Theyβre most evident and visible there. Itβs now faster, itβs now more flexible, and itβs now lower cost, and youβre getting all three of those things. In the old days, they used to say, βcost, quality, and speed [of delivery], pick two, you canβt have all three.β What weβre finding is all three of themβitβs the speed, itβs the flexibility, and itβs the costβall three dropping, which is an interesting intersection of the three of them. Mooreβs Law [of a technologyβs price trending down as quality and utility trends up, over time] isnβt a bad analogy.
As for a specific example, one thing Iβve noticed is that when theyβre loading products into a carton, first of all itβs faster than it used to be. And now you can actually mix different product into the cartons, you can have a variety, you can mix product into the packages in different orders or in a different sequence. You couldnβt do that before.
Depending on how you configure the equipmentβor the programming I should sayβyou could be loading cartons with red product, and then choose one pack to be half red and half blue, then go back to all red. And thatβs just based on the on the commands being applied to the automation, without disruption and without stopping. Thatβs something where I donβt think industry has caught up to the tech. The technology is there, but we as an industry havenβt figured out how to use it yet.
I think itβs going to continue to get better, but I think weβve only started.
Howβs the show been for you? When you come to a trade show like this, itβs almost like a child going to toy store. You say, βIβd love to have that, that, and that too,β even though you might not know how all those things would fit or solve a problem. So you have to prioritize, because Santa wonβt give you every present. You have to determine what are the technologies that are the future. Thereβs going to be constant product improvement and development, and if one keeps oneβs eyes and ears open, youβre going to find good options. PW
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