Used equipment buyers offer 'suggestions'

Packaging machine buyers sound off about buying used or rebuilt packaging machines. Many say the process needs to resemble how they buy new equipment.

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Virtually every time that Packaging World asks packaging people to comment on a subject, the vast majority of responses are negative, often scathingly so. In fact, the editors suspect that packagers often participate in surveys based on whether they’ll be given a chance to vent their feelings. In the online survey about experiences with buying used or rebuilt equipment, or having company-owned machines rebuilt (see p. 50), the questionnaire did ask the participants to identify changes in the process they’d like to make or changes they’d like the OEM or third party company to make. Frankly, one of the most common responses to this question was that the individual simply didn’t want to go through the process again. A representative of a large Midwest beverage producer obviously hadn’t had a good experience. His comment about the types of changes he’d like to see in the arrangement next time: “Don’t want to deal with another.” That was echoed by a packaging buyer at a medium-sized Midwestern medical company. The next time, she said, it will be “done by someone else.” The respondent from a major national food packer was similarly unhappy. “I’m not sure I would go through that process again,” he commented. Buying rebuilt equipment brought sour memories to a participant from a Southeastern beverage company: “Next time, we would not buy a rebuilt machine, but a new one.” The participant from a small meat processor in the Southwest agreed, saying his company would probably buy “new” in the future.

Feasibility questioned Another major national food processor didn’t view the process as economically feasible. “In most cases, we’ve ended up spending as much for a ‘rebuilt’ old machine as a new one would have cost. A new one would have worked better,” emphasized that company’s respondent. A mid-sized food processor in the Northeast felt the same. Its respondent said he would seek a “more thorough cost comparison of new versus rebuilt by the original equipment manufacturer.” And he said he would also pay more “attention to the advantages with the new-generation equipment.” A major national chemical producer simply doesn’t buy rebuilt machinery. Its representative noted that the “time and effort to both rebuild and maintain old machinery usually exceeds the savings” gained from buying rebuilt vs new equipment. A small food processor in the Pacific Northwest believed that the machinery-rebuilding contract should include penalties. Its representative suggested that the rebuilder “should accept all shipping costs to return the machine, if the rebuild turns out to be a joke.” Another recommended a penalty when the timetable isn’t met. The participant with a mid-sized fruit processor in the Mountain States would like to see the OEM provide “a more realistic timetable for the actual completion of the project.” He also called for the contract to stipulate “financial penalties for late deliveries.”

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